Showing posts with label comic events. Show all posts
Showing posts with label comic events. Show all posts

Sunday, March 20, 2011

Comic Talk ™: FLASHPOINT part II

So, yesterday I discussed the upcoming DC event, Flashpoint, and my less than ecstatic feelings toward it. This, despite the fact that I am a diehard Flash fan, paricularly the Barry Allen version, and I appreciate Geoff Johns's writing. But, it all feels forced. Like DC is going for another money grab.


Anyway. I posted my feelings - more a rant than anything - on the CGS boards (my rant having been sparked by their discussion of Flashpoint in one of the episodes last week) and David D., one of the moderators, called me on my diatribe. And he was right. So, it got me thinking a bit more about why I'm so irritated with Flashpoint, when I would expect to be excited. This is what came of that:

First, I responded to David's analysis of my post - which can be seen in yesterday's post.

Definitely a fair reading of my rant. And, ultimately, not what I hoped to get across.

I guess the problem I've had is the cavalier manner in which DC has been announcing all these mini-series (And, if DC did this same announcing of title with Blackest Night, my lack of vitriol against that event would be because Green Lantern was so far off my radar, I didn't even pick up Blackest Night until issue 5, after hearing the CGS guys talking about it). I do have a problem with the manner in which DC and Marvel deluge the market with titles, which seems to me a tactic they use to push out smaller publishers' books from the shelves. I understand it as a business tactic, but I am a person who takes issue with the corporate mindset in any endeavor.

I also understand I don't need to pick up any of these ancillary titles. I read Siege without any of the crossovers and did the same with Infinite Crisis. And the deluge of crossover titles does not mean they will be crap (I enjoyed a number of the BN minis, as stated above). That was a poor choice of words. I've read nothing about what this event or these books will entail, and have only read a list of creators in various threads, which leads me to believe that many of the books have a good chance of being better than average. So, no, crap isn't a fair descriptor.

A major reason I expect I will pass on Flashpoint will be my budgetary constraints. But, ultimately, I seriously expect not to buy any of the Flashpoint books (the Perez book excepted, but my plan is to seek it out in cheap bins or ebay) because I don't want to support these sprawling crossover events.


He replied:

Fair enough.

I do wonder- and this is a real question, not just a rhetorical challenge- what specifically has struck you as cavalier about the way that these titles have been announced (and now solicited)?


Which got me thinking more deeply about the topic.

Probably just a personal bias coupled with the fact that I really have not read anything about them, just that 15 mini-series are going to be published for Flashpoint. It feels like overkill. Combine that with DC canceling titles while announcing these 15 series, and it feels like they're just eating their own tail.

To be fair, Blackest Night really was no different. They only had 7 mini-series, plus the month of resurrected titles, but they also crossed into at least 8 regular titles for two or more issues.

(Are there plans for Flashpoint to cross into regular titles, or are these minis taking the place of those?)

I guess it's just the vantage point from where I'm standing. With BN, it wasn't even on my radar until halfway through the main book. So I wasn't paying attention to any of the lead-in to Blackest Night. And I did pick up some of the ancillary titles, including some GL books, which helped because the story did seem to weave in and out of the main book. If I am remembering correctly, some plot points were made outside the main mini-series, correct?

With Flashpoint, I was very excited for the announcement. Flash, particularly Barry Allen, is my go-to superhero. I want to see what's happening with him. But, if I'm going to need to read some other books besides the main series (and it is very possible I don't need to, but I can't count on that after Final Crisis and BN -
again, correct me if I'm wrong in thinking major plot points were shared outside the main BN book), I don't want to be forced to do that, and my budget won't allow for that.

I don't know if that answers your question. Basically, it's the different vantage point from which I am approaching this event, and probably the reality that I have an emotional investment with this character that goes back to when I first started reading comics (
we're closing in on three decades now) that has really gotten my panties in a bunch.


And, ultimately, Brian Hibbs – owner of Comix Experience in San Francisco - in a later episode in the week, put it more succinctly than I did. The problem with Flashpoint is that it looks very, very much like Blackest Night, with all the tie-ins. But Blackest Night evolved naturally from the very beginning of Geoff Johns’s run on Green Lantern, while this Flash event feels very forced, as if they are trying to recreate the success of Blackest Night (a character who’s just below the first tier heroes, written by Geoff Johns, with numerous tie-ins to the main mini-series, crossing through the DC universe).

Flashpoint feels cynical, while Blackest Night felt story-driven. And that’s what really has me irritated and disappointed with this event. An event that includes my favorite character. And one I will probably not pick up.


chris

Saturday, March 19, 2011

Comic Talk ™: FLASHPOINT

This Monday, as they often do the first of the week, the Comic Geek Speak guys had a "Comic Talk" episode where they discuss whatever might be on heir minds regarding comics - current books that are exciting them, future projects they might speculate on, or whatever else. It's a free for all episode.

One of the questions posed to the group was what is getting you excited in comics right now. And the discussion invariably turned to the upcoming Flashpoint event from DC. One of the hosts, Brian “Pants” Christman, is a huge Flash fan, but even he’s not excited for this big “event.”

And in the talkback thread, this is what I had to say:

Put me in the same camp as Murd and Pants. I was very, very excited for the Flashpoint story when it was first announced. Like Pants, Flash is my guy - and as much as I enjoyed the Wally West series - Barry Allen's my Flash. So, when I heard Johns had something planned, and that Andy (Adam? I can't keep them straight) Kubert was drawing it and was working way ahead, I couldn't wait.

Then DC announced
15 EFFINGmini-series to go along with it. No way. I am burned out on events, have been for a long time. I did get into Blackest Night fairly heavily - for me - but what I read, I enjoyed, and I wasn't buying any regular DC titles that crossed into it, so I didn't have to deal with my characters getting hijacked by the event.

But with the deluge of Flashpoint crap coming down the pipe - regardless of the quality creators they are announcing - I'm not even sure if I'll pick up the Flashpoint book itself. I'll get the George Perez one because it's Perez (and I am intrigued by him collaborating with Peter Milligan), but other than that. I'm tapping out.

And this started a really good conversation between myself and one of the moderators on the CGS boards, David D., when he analyzed my rant in this way:

So it sounds like, as Blackest Night didn't cross over into books you were reading, it sounds like, if I am reading you right, you didn't feel pressured to get those books, and you didn't feel the need to get mad at it, checked out some things, and enjoyed it.

But Flashpoint- crossing over (or "hijacking" to use your word) even less regular, existing titles, and instead putting out a lot of minis and one-shots about ALTERNATE VERSIONS of characters (makes it hard to accuse any of the existant versions of being hijacked), is pre-judged as "crap" and has you feeling like now you don't even want to check out the main book?

There are a lot of thing I tend to agree with you on, but I don't get this one.

And that got me thinking more about why I am so irritated with Flashpoint and all the hype surrounding it.

But I’ll get into that tomorrow …


chris

STAR WARS -- a modern trailer

 This came across my feed, and it's pretty stellar, even if it utilizes some special edition cuts.